well Old David i totally agree with everything you said. Obviously you and i were at "that show" you know the one i mean. I was very very embarrassed to be on that show you could probably tell by the way i was trying to crawl up my own orifice!!Believe me when i say i will NEVER be doing another one of those. It is hard promoting but common sense dictates you look at all angles and possibilities. When we run Weymouth we try to give our audience value for money and try to think of all the types of audience we get in and hopefully get the balance right. I am quite proud of our shows which makes it ultra painful when i work on someone's show that has missed the boat as such.I'm afraid lots of these small shows are run by people who think they know what they're doing but they obviously don't.Hat's off to all those who do run decent little shows as quite rightly they are harder to organise than most people think but David i know you know your stuff and appreciate your views.