I was on the WZW wrestling site.........

Anyway came across an interview with Gary Graham and he claimed Iceman was a "Legend" ......

How can Gary call anyone a legend, after all the Mick Mcmanus's, Alan Kilby, Johnny Saint, Haystacks, Daddy, Pallo, Les Kellett, Johnny Kidd, Roller Ball Rocco, Alan Colbeck, Adrian Street and many many more wrestlers deserve to be called legends...

After all these guys have done it all, and among the finest performers of their times.....Their names are carved in stone and wrestled for many years.

I just find it annoying that he calls a man that can bleed and go through tables a legend, yet becomes ignorant when it comes down to traditional British wrestling.

It looks like someone opens a website, who then thinks he is an expert on wrestling and he then opens a promotion and calls wrestlers that work for him "Legends"

Now i am not having a go at his wrestlers, but i am having a go at him for having the cheek to call anyone a "Legend" and they havent even busted their asses like the wrestlers of former years who went through the toughest training to become wrestlers, they then worked hard to make names for themselves.

You have to earn the right to be even classed as a "Legend" so anyone thinking they are "Legends" should think of the skill and the hard work the lads of yester-year had to put in to their performances.

We also have a great bunch of wrestlers on the circuit at the moment who get to go abroad and wrestle and work their arses off, yet seem to get hardly any recognition for their great achievments.

Doug Williams, Robbie Brookside are two of the most travelled men on the UK scene yet i have never heard anyone call them "Legends".....

So i am asking a question, what must you do to become a "legend"?

Surely i am right at getting annoyed at Gary Grahams interview when i read he is calling Iceman a "Legend" when he surely isn't ........ I am not having a go at Iceman i am using him as an example to why i think this Gary guy is totally wrong, and he should think about re-phrasing his words.

Would you say that being around for a long time is enough to earn the _title_ of Legend??

Stam

Being around for a long time doesn't make u a legend in my opinion. Its what u do in that length of time that counts. Whats the use of having a career lasting twenty years if u don't have even one good match?

~Cherry, xxx

I have removed the post, it was wrong and unprofessional of me to fire back like I did, the interview was read out of context. I will make a note in the interview clarifying what i meant...

Sorry if the post offened anyone



Gary

Good Question Aaron:-
Lets take Kendo (who is a Legend) as an example , although 'retired' people still talk about him with reverence and awe. He would fill any hall if he decided to step back into the ring. His career will be remembered and discussed for years to come. He has/had the 'aura' about him --his presence got to the ring about 2 minutes before he did.
To me a legend is someone who creates a 'buzz' , someone who makes you feel that you are in the presence of greatness , someone who changes your life and prehaps the way you think about things. Its hard to define but you just know when someone is a legend.
You know better than anyone the imense pride I felt when you offered me the chance to second for Alan Kilby at Southwell ,and what did I say? 'The mans a legend' and you know I meant it. And all the workers that share the same dressing room as Alan say the same , just being in his presence gives them a lift ---thats legendary status.

I wont knock Iceman even though I detest with a vengence his _style_ of work ---sorry Gary a legend Iceman is not!!

Keep the Faith, Dusty.

Gary , sorry to come straight back in-----you say half the guys Aaron mentions you have never seen or heard of? He mentions , Haystacks, Daddy, Street , Colbeck, Saint, Kilby , Rocco---etc,
Gary , if you have never heard of these guys it is little wonder you consider Iceman a legend.

Some homework is required me=thinks.

Keeping it, Dusty.