I would like to say, I never made a comparision to anyone. Iceman is a legend in my eyes as a UK Hardcore/extreme wrestler. There is no one in the UK tha would do the crazy stuff he does.
This isn't a knock on Iceman but its not really hard to say you're the number 1 hardcore wrestler in the UK when there isn't any guys out there trying to knock you off that top spot. Some are maybe too scared to be labled as garbage workers but I know a handfull of guys that don't give a fuck about what they're labled as and would blow the piss out of the scene if given the chance to do their stuff.

Oh my God, I think I am about to agree with Rob Mckay, something I thought that I would never do!!!

There are certainly groups of Backyard or Garbage wrestlers out their on the fringe of wrestling that could hold their own in Hardcore matches. This is mainly down to having little regard for their own bodies or saftey.

Some of the ones that I have seen do some amazingly dangerous stuff.

What place it has in British wrestling is another matter. It could be that it is time that these guys tried to separate themseleves from the label of British wrestling and open up a new _style_

I just want to clarify something, now I know what interview this is about.

I said Iceman is a legend, a good friend (the term legend was not in the context of legendary it was a slang word for good friend, like the southerners who say Diamond)

Gary

I have just got to reply......

Totally i am mad at Gary, but i mentioned to Adam 2 weeks ago i was going to bring this up, and now i have.......

I like Iceman as a human, some one i could call a friend, but its not about him....

It is however about how you come across with your words, Gary mentioned Iceman was a "Legend".........

I grew up on British wrestling, Dusty will tell you my passion, anyone who i have talked to will tell you my passion and my memories for British wrestling.....

Me...I have a day job, i am any ordinary person, might promote a few shows, i might do this and that, so what, at the end of the day my name is Aaron Spencer...

Lets now talk about Giant Haystacks, Mick Mcmanus, they were house hold names, they won _title_s, and will never ever be forgotten, not while i am alive and many others....

What i wanted to say was Gary actually was wrong to name Iceman as a Legend.....

I have fallen out with Gary, I dont get on with him, and never will, i will talk all this over with him face to face, but i will still walk away after and say we cant be friends, because we cant agree or get on....

A legend is someone who was on tv, and still remembered, a wrestler or person that will never be forgotten, achieved the greatest honours, and someone who goes down in history.

Some wrestlers are only known to internet fans, these guys are known to most people who watched British wrestling.


I started with BXW, it was a path i took with Iceman, i had the money and Iceman ran the show's and the bookings, i hated it, Iceman knows all this and after 2 shows the plug was pulled away, was it hardcore, after i got my own way it wasnt, but i didnt have anyone leading me down the path of wrestling, i had to take the path with my own steps.

Then RBW was born, and my 2 closest friends and myself run RBW, we have made a good name for ourselves....

But this isnt about RBW. its about who really is a legend......I disagree with Gary and his comments...

Gary we will meet face to face and sort this out in private, but remember this British wrestling as a huge history, a history i love and so much respect that i have for, when i see comments like yours it really winds me up. I cant tell anyone how much wrestling as played apart in my life, ask Dusty we can chat for hours and speak of names you will never know....

I am 27 years old, and i have over 1,000 tapes, went to weekly shows, still go to shows as often as possible, my fondest memories are while watching wrestling, ask one of my friends, all i talk and breathe is wrestling....

I love it, and i adore it, Garys comments came over as a insult and we have agreed to talk face to face and discuss it in a adult way and not here on a forum..

What place it has in British wrestling is another matter. It could be that it is time that these guys tried to separate themseleves from the label of British wrestling and open up a new _style_.
I believe if an IWA/CZW _style_ promotion existed over here it would be an entity that didn’t consider itself a part of the British Wrestling scene and vice versa. Maybe a promotion like this is running already, a promotion that doesn’t publicize online and only caters to a very small, local fan _base_. In Japan there’s every single _style_ of wrestling imaginable. It could be the same here. British Wrestling is like a hardcore porn movie. If you seen one you’ve seen them all. Wither it was BWF, Allstar BCW, SCW, Midlands, Holiday Camps, WZW, BXW, K-Star, Hammerlock, etc, etc every single show was the same stuff. I think an introduction of traditional, shoot fighting and extreme wrestling promotions would spice things up a bit. The cream of the crop will maybe land a place on the wrestling channel. Possible? Maybe. But hey "us promoters are in it to make money so we got to give them WWE _style_. Thats how we'll make money." (Does any promoter in this country actually make money? It seems every show I've heard about is always run at a loss.)

Thats beside the point wither Iceman is a legend or not I say no. Walk down the street and ask anyone who Iceman is and they won't have a clue. Ask a random person who Hulk Hogan is and they will know. You don't have to be in WWE to be a legend though. I know very little about old school British Wrestling and even I've heard off Mick McManus, Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks. Usually from my old man, my Gran (who told me a story about an old lady that got up from her seat and attacked a wrestler with her handbag) etc etc. When your reputation extends outwith of the wrestling subculture then you're a legend. In my always humble opinion. :wink:

Well mu humble opinion is what makes a you a legend. Is who sees you as a legend. Everyone has a different point of view in this world so everyone will see different people as legends. e.g. I see Dani Flth as a legned anyone agree I dont think alot of people on here will doesnt mean im wrong