I just can't be bothered to debate something like that,Ive been warned about takin things off topic by the mods and I am making a concious effort not to.
I enjoyed the match a lot,it was a refreshing change from the usual WWF fare at the time,but to discuss the inner workings and give a blow by blow accoun tof the match,I cannot do because I dont have it on tape,and even if I did chances are I would maybe have watched it once or even twice since.
As I have mentioned before,I am mainly attracted to the entertainment side of the wrestling,but can tell the difference between a good and a bad match,neither have ever been favourite wrestlers of mine,I thought the Worm was the gayest move in wrestling history,but I acknowledged its entertainment value.And teh last thing anyone can do is call Dean Malenko "entertaining",despite him having (in comparison to others on the roster before you start jaqk)excellent technical skills.
The japanese wrestlers comment I feel is perfectly appropriate as I have never seen jaqk be complimentry to any wrestler other than Japanese ones,I have no doubt they are good at what they do,I couldnt say because I havent had the opportunity to view any,although I would like to,it really annoys me when people try to feel superior to others just because they spend more money and have more access to some things than others do.
And incidently,I honestly dont know what IMO means,so you won't see me using that ever.

I just can't be bothered to debate something like that...

Fair enough, but then way make "debate-worthy" points?

I enjoyed the match a lot,it was a refreshing change from the usual WWF fare at the time,but to discuss the inner workings and give a blow by blow accoun tof the match,I cannot do because I dont have it on tape,and even if I did chances are I would maybe have watched it once or even twice since.

Alright then. The way to say your point then would've been something like "What I remember of a Dean Malenko and Scotty Too Hotty match is them having a good technical match which I enjoyed." That way, there's no real back-up needed because it's simply what you remember (perhaps vaguely) and you're not making a firm bold statement.

Just for the record, what I remember of the match was the usual Dean Malenko match (which I could get into but it'd get a rather long-winded essay-like post which there's no point doing here) with Scotty totally blowing off what was 95% of Dean's offence when doing the Worm.

As I have mentioned before,I am mainly attracted to the entertainment side of the wrestling.

Which I won't hold against you . Generally then, avoid attracting long, serious, analytical debates concerning wrestling matches. Or comments that might induce such (ie, say statements like what I put in quotes above, rather than "so-and-so had a great match").

And teh last thing anyone can do is call Dean Malenko "entertaining",despite him having (in comparison to others on the roster before you start jaqk)excellent technical skills.

Um, what about people who might actually be entertained by "excellent technical skills"? And from a pure-technique POV, he does have "excellent technical skills" - certainly comparatively as you sated it - and I won't debate said point.

The japanese wrestlers comment I feel is perfectly appropriate as I have never seen jaqk be complimentry to any wrestler other than Japanese ones

No, but the chance to state as such never really comes up in debates and I'm not just going to post a list of American wrestlers I "rate" for no reason. I generally use Japanese wrestlers and matches as examples of points I'm trying to put across because, generally, they're the *best* examples I'm aware of. It's no pro-nihon bias.

I have no doubt they are good

The wrestlers and matches I pimp above all others generally are (and agreed by all who've seen and understood them before any wise-ass comebacks enter people's heads)...

I couldnt say because I havent had the opportunity to view any,although I would like to

If you want any kind of "introductory" tape recommendations feel free to PM me or contact me on MSN ( This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it ) or AIM (jaqkhalewood). I'd also be able to help explain the matches to you if/when you purchase the tapes and watch them.

it really annoys me when people try to feel superior to others just because they spend more money and have more access to some things than others do.

That's purely a misconception about people "acting superiorily". There is no "Puro elitism" or any of that. It's more or less an excuse certain people will have made up at some point so they don't feel bad when more serious fans criticise their favourite wrestlers or matches because "Oh, they're just being elitist" or "Oh, they'll only pimp japanese stuff" etc...

And incidently,I honestly dont know what IMO means,so you won't see me using that ever.

"In My Opinion". It's what a lot of people use to "get out" of having to back up what they say. "That's just my opinion", "Everyone has an opinion" etc are generally just used as excuses to get out of any serious debate on wrestling (and other forms) boards. In other words, they kill all discussion.

So basically it all boils down to the fact I omitted several words???Thanks for the english lesson

I think you kind of proved my point with the comment about "serious" fans...I havent watched any Japanese/mexican stuff simply because I havent had access to it,and can't afford it.If I met someone who had some I would watch it...if it is shown on tv on the new wrestling channel,I will watch it (which I hear is the case with at least one promotion).Does that mean I am a "casual" fan?I mean granted,I am more interested in seeing some of the "garbage" promotions,basically because they are what I have read about a lot more.Although I recall an article in Power Slam about a week in Tokyo seeing five different promotions in said week that I found intriguing.
Its alright the fact that you are obviously a fan of japanese stuff,but when you quote people and matches that the majority of people may not have heard of and seen,that does come off as elitist (ive had this same argument before with hardcore fans on music forums,except I actually know a fair bit about that scene,being a dj)and the comments about you pimping the japanese are to be expected..after all you cant debate a point if you dont know what you are talking about can you?? (not that I am insinuating you make them up)
Incidentaly,cheers for the IMO thing,I hate abbreviations and text speak,Id much rather type in my opinion.(although I use LOL,that doesnt count)So I will not be doing that..

I havent watched any Japanese/mexican stuff simply because I havent had access to it,and can't afford it...

Do you have Sky? Do you eat out? Do you ever buy new clothes? Ever have a few pints at the pub?

In that case you can afford it, we're talking about a fiver or tenner here, for 3 or 4 hours worth of stuff.

I think you kind of proved my point with the comment about "serious" fans...I havent watched any Japanese/mexican stuff simply because I havent had access to it,and can't afford it.

Fair enough.

If I met someone who had some I would watch it...if it is shown on tv on the new wrestling channel,I will watch it (which I hear is the case with at least one promotion).

Knowing this new wrestling channel it will be what they can get cheap rather than what is good...

Does that mean I am a "casual" fan?

If you only watch what is on TV and maybe the odd live show if people run by you? Probably. *More* casual than some would probably be a better way of stating it, however.

I mean granted,I am more interested in seeing some of the "garbage" promotions,basically because they are what I have read about a lot more...

Then pick up Megumi Kudo vs. Combat Toyoda 5/5/96, or either Tomoaki Honma/Ryuji Yamakawada 7/99 (it's certainly on a 7/99 TV block), and 1/00. Death matches, without sacrificing the elements that makes all other matches in all other _style_s great. At least, as much as you can (such as the selling is different, naturally)...

Although I recall an article in Power Slam about a week in Tokyo seeing five different promotions in said week that I found intriguing.

Whilst I've no doubt there could be up to 5 different promotions running shows within the Tokyo area each week, don't beleive the stuff PowerSlam would tell you. Or you'll start thinking King of the Death Match 1995 and SummerSlam 2002 are better shows than Big Egg Wrestling Universe, that Shawn Michaels is one of the greatest wrestlers of all time, and that Alex Shane can actually produce competent wrestling matches .

Its alright the fact that you are obviously a fan of japanese stuff,but when you quote people and matches that the majority of people may not have heard of and seen,that does come off as elitist.

It shouldn't... I'm generally just giving the better examples of what I mean that I can think of. In all probability, it is also a case that there isn't a "great" example of what I mean in a match you might be more familiar with... that's certainly not my problem/fault.

and the comments about you pimping the japanese are to be expected...

Naturally. If I find a great match I'm going to pimp it. Don't think there haven't been plenty of examples of Japanese wrestling where I haven't criticised the product. There's plenty of Japanese stuff I could be highly-critical of except their inclusion in topics generally don't happen on this board.

after all you cant debate a point if you dont know what you are talking about can you??

Of course.

...not that I am insinuating you make them up

Good, because if you beleive I'm making Hokuto, Kawada et al up; that's more ignorant than he who says Shawn Michaels is a great seller .

Incidentaly,cheers for the IMO thing,I hate abbreviations and text speak,Id much rather type in my opinion.(although I use LOL,that doesnt count)So I will not be doing that..

Well it's more than just stating "IMO", it's the idea that it usually represents. People beleiving that because something they have said is "their opinion", they shouldn't be called upon to back up, reason, and defend what they've said. Which is ridiculous because you can't "think" or "beleive" something without reason behind why you came to the view you've stated...

I havent watched any Japanese/mexican stuff simply because I havent had access to it,and can't afford it...

Do you have Sky? Do you eat out? Do you ever buy new clothes? Ever have a few pints at the pub?

In that case you can afford it, we're talking about a fiver or tenner here, for 3 or 4 hours worth of stuff.

can't afford sky at the minute,I get most of my clothes for free and my drinks are free...just dont get a lot of money...