That's why Brit wrestling MUST try to appeal to a broader ( and older ) audience than the current predominance of youngsters.
I'm inclined to agree.

Until it does, the aura of 'kid's pantomime' will continue to surround it and prevent any positive forward progress.
TV deals are OK, but it will all rest on the quality that is broadcast to a cross section of the public and not just teen or pre-teen wrestling fans.

I still maintain that Mr. Macmahon's insistence in stripping any mystique away from wrestling did more harm than good. Why must we do the same.
Do wrestling fans no longer have the bottle to tell detractors just to 'F**K OFF'. ??

Some of the comments to this thread amaze me

don't worry about the idiots who say its fake, they aren't wrestlings true fans so in my opinion they aren't worth the worry.


Just how many "true fans" are there? Reading the threads on this forum, every person has a different view so who is to say that they are not a true fan if they enjoy or think something you don't.

If this report demonstrates what 'Joe Public' thinks then that is what matters. Until the public onmass have their views changed then wrestling will always be seen as the low end of the market.

Imagine you are a Joe Public with preconceptions of wrestling (not a fan)and you stumble on this forum. How many threads turn to personal insult/promotional insults. What does this tell you about the type of people who follow wrestling? I am not only on about this forum, but nearly all forums.

As for Davids comments regarding homophobic fans. Some parents do not wish their children to watch sexual material on the television. The WWE ran with the Billy and Chuck story line. The WCW had a similar story line. In this country we have had a selection of wrestlers portraying gay characters so the wrestling industry can not complain when people think that the sport is gay. Remember peoples opinions are _base_d on what they perceve not what actually happens.

The WWE made public that their shows were entertainment due to tax reasons. The unfortunate thing is that instead of the wrestling world disassociating itself with the WWE, they all wanted to emulate it and thus draged themselves into the same mold.

Julian

It wasn't me who said anything about homophobic fans - I merely said that Rob's mates were homophobes. Mainly for calling "gay" anything they don't like.

(This, btw, being a cheap and scummy piece of social policing used particularly in school playgrounds to bully young males into conforming to an often ill-fitting standard gender identity. It does so in ways that can vary from the military con_script_ion mentality of :

"Urgh - you don't like football... you must be gay."

... to the patently absurd, viz the classic howler:

"Urgh - you hang around with Girls... you must be gay!" )

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But that was just a digression. My real point was that Rob's mates must be seriously dopey if they can find garbage spots more believable than technical manuevers.

Even if someone doesn't quite understand how a hold works, they can reasonably assume it to be _base_d on something fairly authentic. But who can take seriously a crash through a clearly rigged-up plywood table, or a whack with a light aluminium chair that has been nicely folded flat. And don't we all know how blading works by now.

What's more, while it's quite easy to comprehend that a submission hold will produce an internal injury such as a torn muscle, not visible on the surface but enough to cause someone to cry out in pain or limp around afterwards, how anyone can seriously believe that someone can take a fireball to the face or be crashed through a solid, sturdy table (as opposed to a rigged-up one) and walk away is beyond me.

Oh yes, and garbage is boring. Does absolutely nothing to stimulate the mind. Just plays to the _base_ animal instinct for violence.

Whereas a technical wrestling bout can stretch the brain the same way a game of chess or a crossword puzzle can. It's cerebral - it gets you thinking!

wrestling data_base_ wrote:

The WWE made public that their shows were entertainment due to tax reasons. The unfortunate thing is that instead of the wrestling world disassociating itself with the WWE, they all wanted to emulate it and thus draged themselves into the same mold.


.............thus reinforcing my argument that the Brit Feds have shot themselves in the foot, and do not APPEAR to be doing a great deal to stamp an identity on British wrestling ( unless of course there are more secret negotiations going on somewhere !)

As this is a British Wrestling forum I would expect 'true fans' to be fans of an identifiable BritWrestling _style_, not a pale imitation of what is watched on Sky TV.

or a whack with a light aluminium chair that has been nicely folded flat Actualy, I brought one just incase i ever need it for a match/angle, and there damn heavy, and could do some legit damage. The WWE ones are slightly lighter, but I can bet they still hurt like hell when you get hit full force in the face with one.

As for the tables, I've never been through them, but after seeing guys just bounce off them when there slammed full force through them (during f--- ups) and seeing 2 200lbs+ guys standing on them, I dont think there that rigged. Try, they are mostly plywood, but it still takes some force t break them.

And blading, although commen, isnt the only way wrestlers get busted open, a lot of the time they'll busted up the hard way, i.e. Taker in the latest hell in the cell match, where he didnt protect himself from the ring steps properly, thats why there was so much blood.