Some fascinating points and opinions being expressed here. I agree with some and disagree with others.

It seems like Hammerlock is being completely disregarded here. The Hammerlock way has always been to concentrate on the basics and to keep the legitimacy in wrestling. I was taught the fundamentals and shoot/sombo/judo _style_ techniques from day one and still practice them today, plus learn something new whenever I can from the _style_s of John Ritchie, John Hall, Peter Murphy, Andre himself and more. Whenever I teach, I stress the importance of legitimacy and make clear the seperation between full and assisted takedowns and impacts.

Watching people such as Gary Steele, Johnny Moss, Alan Johnson, Andre and the new breed of amateur turned pro wrestlers that the excellent Kent gym is producing, I find it annoying that whilst NWA-UK attempt to keep our own _style_ in the face of sports entertainment adversity, still many of our wrestlers are declared spot merchants by people that haven't seen them.

Psychology is a fundamental. Story telling is a fundamental. We preach and preach about them.

Many trainees find it hard going to make it through full training with us due to this. Some find it boring and desperately want to start throwing choke slams and powerbombs. We just don't allow this. Sure, big hitting moves are great, but are nothing without build up.

Please - I beg you - even if every other British show has not been to your taste, visit an NWA-UK show and see the myriad of different _style_s we have. All of them _base_d on the fundamentals and legitimate techniques that so many people cry out for.

I'm sure I reflect a lot of feelings when I ask not to throw British wrestling as a whole into one big vat and judge them. Judge promotions on their own merits and failures.

We're on tour as of Thursday. if you can - give us a try. We start at Bedworth and then head down south for another eight dates. Go to www.hammerlockwrestling.com for tour details.

And with that - I'm off to bed

Majik

Just to add on what Maj said.

When I first went to a Hammerlock camp I was really interested in the 'British' _style_ ie. the legitamacy involved. I actually thought all British wrestling was taught like this...from the British shows I've been to this is not the case and what I once explained to by none wrestling friends as a British _style_ I now more frequently call it a Hammerlock _style_.

I've been to numerous other British events and while I enjoy wrestling, I do get a disappointed that they wrestle a more american 'punch kick' _style_.

When I watch a wrestling show with a none wrestling friend they usually always point out the punches and kicks, and as much as I want to defend them I really cant. If you've ever seen a Hammerlock show you'll see no punches are pulled, its a very stiff _style_.

I've never been to a none Hammerlock training session, so I'm most lilky wrong, but I guess that because Hammerlock trains its trainees with a great deal of shoot it really helps. Andre and Martin Clarke put together a Ring Wrestling disciplin for the IBF which trainees can be graded in (I'm a proud Blue Belt).

At the end of the day you can do as much training as you like, its up to the trainees themselves to respect and want to use these things. I've seen people that have been trained all week in the best mat wrestling and take downs there are, but when they get in the ring, its bang...bang...bang with the impact stuff.

Porn just finished on TV, so i'm off.

I've never seen Hammerlock, BUT, I've seen Gary Steele numerous times and, no offense like, but he is REALLY, REALLY bad from what I've seen. His matwork is painfully basic (sub-debuting-rookie) and directionless, and his striking is god-awful, which looks even worse when he's against a great striker like Hashimoto.

AND, I've read accounts of people who've been to hamemrlock school and it seems strange, they say they're cutting promos and doing death valley drivers 5-sessions-in... .

When I finally decided to put on the SCW show, I say finally because I almost started the January before after discussions with Matt V and a lad called Ben Clarke, I only wanted to put on a decent show. I was sick to my back teeth of tribute shows and sick of hearing about bakyarders...who ever then were putting abuse on forums...who were leaping off fences in Glasgow, Lanark, Fife, Aberdeen. I was fully aware of the UK scene politics "I'm not working with him" or "Can I play politics here? but hoped everyone would look upon Scotland as a new opportunity. Afterall, if used properly it could have gotten everybody over up here.

Anyway, I was lucky enough to be contacted by a number of people in the UK...Conscience, Scott McKenzie, Andy Hogg (through Adam South) and a few others. I also had people like Rob McKay, who I was aware of anyway, Mark Dallas, who I knew of from my brief spell on the EWW roster (I never did make the show...I was "The Justice" if you're wondering Aaron), Eric Ridley and Drew Galloway contact me. Add that to my promise to my good friends Aidan and Stephen Reeves and you'll see why I decided to actually give some Scottish talent a chance.

Along with these guys, I was contacted by the likes of Scott Future, Cyanide, The Nattrass Boyz, Timm Wylie and a few others from the UK, I contacted the likes of The UK Pitbulls, Dominator, Alex Shane, Scott Parker and at times had some booked and some not booked. I even tried to get guys like Mal Sanders, Jace the Ace and Steve Grey...so you can see I spent quite some time looking around. These were added to by a lot of foreign talent, like Shark Boy...who I gave contacts for to every UK Promotion (might have helped him get All Star, might not have)...some guys from Stampede, a few guys from OVW (erm, Rivera???), the All Knighters and (Rob'll like this one) Jason the Terrible.

I'll not go into the whole booking etc of the show, "the carny code", but it was fairly simple for me as I had a group of guys who were honest and wanted to work the show.

Now, you can go on about technical wrestling and children in the crowd all you like...but you get a different perspective seeing a 6 year olds eyes light up as Adam South gets his backside kicked or The Great Scot hits a powerbomb. I'd like to think the SCW show was a nice mix where bi-polar opposites met. Jack talks about the technique, I'll offer him Marco Di Fiore, Great Scot, Majik and Andy Hogg for starters. Aaron talks about fitting a gimmick...Conscience, Iceman and even Eric Ridley (Canyon) playing the Scots wrestler pushed into the spotlight. As I looked around though I saw over 150 fans enjoying every second, glad that there wasn't a Doink or a Rick Masters or a Sgt Slaughter. I didn't need a star commanding £x amount, as it would have detracted from everything else and I didn't need teenagers throwing themselves through tables. I just had what I wanted and what I continue to pay for...an honest show.

A tape would have been nice too,

You need some sort of pantmone {sic} in matches, and i have watched many shows where wrestlers go out to the ring and wrestle and do not involve the fans, the match might be good to a few, but too most it comes over as rubbish and if every match just resolved around 2 men wrestling and not involving the fans then most of the spectators will not go back to the 2nd show.

I think what's needed, and what in fact was done in the past, is to educate fans to appreciate good technical wrestling. The perfect vehicle for this is, of course, the Clean Match (babyface vs babyface, sportsmanly, technical) Clean Matches were an absolutely vital constituent part of British wrestling - to the point where they could even be the main event of a show.

They particularly appealed to the 30-50 year old mature audiences, who really got into the classy intelligent technical bouts. They were also rather good for keeping kayfabe - it was easy for fans to be seduced by clean technical matches and to want to believe in them. These bouts were particularly good for TV where they fitted in nicely with the Reithian "public service" ethic - "To educate and inform" and all that.

I think every British wrestling show should ideally have at least one Clean Match, with a view to eventually building up to a point where around 40-50% of bouts are clean.

On November 16th in Southwell, at the Southwell Leisure Centre, Nottinghamshire. Revolution British Wrestling have a special night of wrestling.

We are offering a night of traditional British Wrestling and the revolution will be upon us.

Starting from the 16th of November we will be running all of our shows as traditional British wrestling.

RBW/Wrestling UK as teamed up with G N Promotions LTD to offer a alternative to American _style_ wrestling

I can officially announce that Alan Kilby who is a true British wrestling legend will be on the show, and Alan as also agreed to wrestle on all RBW/Wrestling UK & G N Promotions show's

Alan Kilby will headline and will be assisted by
Mike Weaver
Keith Myatt
Dick "The Bruiser" Harrison
Andy Hogg
Jem Brown
Chris Botherway
& More

Also scheduled to appear are Johnny Kid and we will be contacting more wrestlers in the coming weeks to wrestle on our traditional British wrestling shows.

We are going to mix young wrestlers with the veterans of the matt game, we plan on having a _style_ that is unique and yet at the same time we are keeping the traditional British wrestling alive.

We are putting the WRESTLING back in to professional British wrestling.

Its time to give British wrestling its identity back, and we plan on making this a huge success.

We have plans to run twice a month starting from February, and if all our plans keep on track we plan to be up to 3 shows a month by April of 2003.

This is an exciting time for us, and we plan on delivering some of the biggest names in British wrestling to appear on our shows.

Its time for a change, and RBW/Wrestling UK in association with G N Promotions LTD plan on making the change on November 16th at the Southwell Leisure Centre, Southwell, Nottinghamshire.

For more information on all of our shows visit
http://www.wrestlinguk.com